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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an interesting look at a City&#039;s attempt to re-brand itself, take a look at Lexington, Kentucky&#039;s recent attempts. The local government is trying to build on its declaration of &quot;horse capitol of the world.&quot; Currently, that is leading them to follow the advice of a NYC firm&#039;s recommendation that they build a gigantic blue horse they&#039;re calling Big Lex. The counter argument from individuals invested in the decision (because they live there) is that Lexington should focus on its people and culture, not merely a gimmicky horse of gargantuan proportions.

Here&#039;s a link to a prescient article by one of Lexington&#039;s blogging businessmen:
http://lowells.typepad.com/lowells/2009/04/a-better-brand-for-lexington.html

This whole debacle happening over there is a prime example of what I was pointing out earlier. Image Branding versus Reputation Branding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an interesting look at a City’s attempt to re-brand itself, take a look at Lexington, Kentucky’s recent attempts. The local government is trying to build on its declaration of “horse capitol of the world.” Currently, that is leading them to follow the advice of a NYC firm’s recommendation that they build a gigantic blue horse they’re calling Big Lex. The counter argument from individuals invested in the decision (because they live there) is that Lexington should focus on its people and culture, not merely a gimmicky horse of gargantuan proportions.</p>
<p>Here’s a link to a prescient article by one of Lexington’s blogging businessmen:<br />
<a href="http://lowells.typepad.com/lowells/2009/04/a-better-brand-for-lexington.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://lowells.typepad.com/lowells/2009/04/a-better-brand-for-lexington.html'>lowells.typepad.com/lowells/2009/04/a-better-brand-for-lexin...</a></p>
<p>This whole debacle happening over there is a prime example of what I was pointing out earlier. Image Branding versus Reputation Branding.</p>
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		<title>By: Mogul</title>
		<link>http://www.marketersboard.com/branding-5-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-1394</link>
		<dc:creator>Mogul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent advice, though I think a little light on the promotional specifics. Still, a worthwhile read. Thanks for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent advice, though I think a little light on the promotional specifics. Still, a worthwhile read. Thanks for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.marketersboard.com/branding-5-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-1205</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discussing the topic in depth here is preaching to the choir. We&#039;re a group in tune with the principles of direct marketing, and debating semantics. My challenge comes from interactions with lay persons whose understanding is based on skimming a couple of books and a handful of blog posts. Those sorts are thoroughly confused about the whole topic. I&#039;m sure many here share in my delight regarding those sorts of conversations. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discussing the topic in depth here is preaching to the choir. We’re a group in tune with the principles of direct marketing, and debating semantics. My challenge comes from interactions with lay persons whose understanding is based on skimming a couple of books and a handful of blog posts. Those sorts are thoroughly confused about the whole topic. I’m sure many here share in my delight regarding those sorts of conversations. <img src='http://www.marketersboard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Shallow</title>
		<link>http://www.marketersboard.com/branding-5-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-1201</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Shallow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-1121&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Dan&lt;/a&gt; - Hi Dan, I absolutely agree with everything you write. Branding is a complicated topic: there are plenty of academic and practical books written about what it is! So, yes, for the newcomer, tell them to concentrate on reputation rather than all the things which people think are branding but really are not, like logo. But by building their reputation they ARE, as I&#039;m sure you know, building their brand! 8-) Here are some textbook definitions of terms:
Brand
An identifying name, term, design, or symbol
One item, family of items, or all items of a seller
Corvette, Chevrolet, General Motors
Brand Name
The part of a brand that can be spoken
Words, letters, numbers
Union 76, NBA, 49’ers
Brand Mark
The part of a brand not made up of words
Symbols or designs
Nike swoosh, Mercedes star, McDonald’s arches.

This one I like better:
BRAND
A name becomes a brand when consumers associate it with a set of tangible and intangible benefits that they obtain from the product or service
It is the seller’s promise to deliver the same bundle of benefits / services consistently to buyers
BUT it&#039;s by no means the whole BRAND story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-1121' rel="nofollow">@Dan</a> — Hi Dan, I absolutely agree with everything you write. Branding is a complicated topic: there are plenty of academic and practical books written about what it is! So, yes, for the newcomer, tell them to concentrate on reputation rather than all the things which people think are branding but really are not, like logo. But by building their reputation they ARE, as I’m sure you know, building their brand! <img src='http://www.marketersboard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Here are some textbook definitions of terms:<br />
Brand<br />
An identifying name, term, design, or symbol<br />
One item, family of items, or all items of a seller<br />
Corvette, Chevrolet, General Motors<br />
Brand Name<br />
The part of a brand that can be spoken<br />
Words, letters, numbers<br />
Union 76, NBA, 49’ers<br />
Brand Mark<br />
The part of a brand not made up of words<br />
Symbols or designs<br />
Nike swoosh, Mercedes star, McDonald’s arches.</p>
<p>This one I like better:<br />
BRAND<br />
A name becomes a brand when consumers associate it with a set of tangible and intangible benefits that they obtain from the product or service<br />
It is the seller’s promise to deliver the same bundle of benefits / services consistently to buyers<br />
BUT it’s by no means the whole BRAND story!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My previous comment probably looked that way, but I wasn&#039;t merely arguing about terminology. I&#039;ll give you an example of how I see entrepreneurs tripping themselves up by focusing on superficial branding versus branding that built on reputation.

There&#039;s a gentleman I met who is sitting on a business idea that has potential, from what I picked up in our conversation. However, instead of doing something like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.perrymarshall.com/google/day4/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Perry Marshall suggests&lt;/a&gt;, and testing the idea by putting up a squeeze page and driving some traffic to it, he is worried about his brand image. Banal stuff like his corporate logo, business card design, etc. So he&#039;ll waste time and money on superficial pieces of the puzzle before he even attempts to find out if there&#039;s a market for his idea.

That&#039;s the focus on branding I am talking about.

Another way of putting it is considering what would have become of Starbucks if they obsessed over the logo on the cup instead of focusing on great customer interactions. I&#039;m sure they spent time and money creating and cultivating a brand image, but it was supplementary to what really made their company successful.

The reason I push the use of reputation over branding is because the word reputation is clear cut, while the term branding is often times misleading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My previous comment probably looked that way, but I wasn’t merely arguing about terminology. I’ll give you an example of how I see entrepreneurs tripping themselves up by focusing on superficial branding versus branding that built on reputation.</p>
<p>There’s a gentleman I met who is sitting on a business idea that has potential, from what I picked up in our conversation. However, instead of doing something like <a href="http://www.perrymarshall.com/google/day4/" rel="nofollow">Perry Marshall suggests</a>, and testing the idea by putting up a squeeze page and driving some traffic to it, he is worried about his brand image. Banal stuff like his corporate logo, business card design, etc. So he’ll waste time and money on superficial pieces of the puzzle before he even attempts to find out if there’s a market for his idea.</p>
<p>That’s the focus on branding I am talking about.</p>
<p>Another way of putting it is considering what would have become of Starbucks if they obsessed over the logo on the cup instead of focusing on great customer interactions. I’m sure they spent time and money creating and cultivating a brand image, but it was supplementary to what really made their company successful.</p>
<p>The reason I push the use of reputation over branding is because the word reputation is clear cut, while the term branding is often times misleading.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Fuller</title>
		<link>http://www.marketersboard.com/branding-5-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-1098</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-1078&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Dan&lt;/a&gt; - Your Reputation is your Brand :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-1078' rel="nofollow">@Dan</a> — Your Reputation is your Brand <img src='http://www.marketersboard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Shallow</title>
		<link>http://www.marketersboard.com/branding-5-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-1093</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Shallow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I really liked your post and I see no contradiction between building a reputation and a brand. If you research branding (as I have I also teach marketing as well as practice it) you will find that most academic experts agree that reputation is part of a brand and the better your reputation the higher your brand value. So, I think we&#039;re arguing about terminology not good marketing practice. A brand is built (or destroyed) by your &#039;touchpoints&#039; -- all the places where people come into contact with your brand and, as you so rightly say, that includesgood service. (Severely lacking the further east you go, here, in Europe). Your brand, in short, is what your customers, partners, etc. think about you and, so the best way to build a strong brand is, as Michel says, (I paraphrase) to do right by people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I really liked your post and I see no contradiction between building a reputation and a brand. If you research branding (as I have I also teach marketing as well as practice it) you will find that most academic experts agree that reputation is part of a brand and the better your reputation the higher your brand value. So, I think we’re arguing about terminology not good marketing practice. A brand is built (or destroyed) by your ‘touchpoints’ — all the places where people come into contact with your brand and, as you so rightly say, that includesgood service. (Severely lacking the further east you go, here, in Europe). Your brand, in short, is what your customers, partners, etc. think about you and, so the best way to build a strong brand is, as Michel says, (I paraphrase) to do right by people.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 06:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For independent professionals and small (micro?) businesses, I think the topic of branding is overrated, and misguided. Your &quot;Personal Brand&quot; or company&#039;s brand is nothing more and no less than your reputation. And your reputation is built one interaction at a time.

I say this because so many gloss over the topic of reputation and skip right to brand, and (ugh) brand &lt;em&gt;image.&lt;/em&gt; Most point that I see being made by people who prattle on about personal branding still apply if your focus is on your reputation. You can create the most amazing brand image possible, but if you treat your prospects and customers poorly, that brand isn&#039;t got to keep your business afloat.

This even works for large companies. Starbucks never spent a dime on advertising (as 2006, the last time I spoke with an acquaintance who was a District Manager there). The TV ads you saw for their line of grocery products was paid for by the company who was manufacturing them. Pepsi, I believe. Their success was built on quality and consistency. Their Baristas in every single store were trained, encouraged and rewarded for connecting with customers. They are notorious for memorizing the faces, names and preferred drinks of their regulars. And those drinks are made with a consistency such that you know you&#039;re going to get the same drink in any of their locations. They grew into the monolithic success that they are today because they built a great reputation for themselves. Starbucks would have seen the same success even if they didn&#039;t have the mermaid logo, and served their drinks in dixie cups.

Every business owner would see their bottom line improve by leaps and bounds if they fostered a culture of service and positive interaction with their customers. If they viewed their business as having a reputation built on strength of character, and not a brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For independent professionals and small (micro?) businesses, I think the topic of branding is overrated, and misguided. Your “Personal Brand” or company’s brand is nothing more and no less than your reputation. And your reputation is built one interaction at a time.</p>
<p>I say this because so many gloss over the topic of reputation and skip right to brand, and (ugh) brand <em>image.</em> Most point that I see being made by people who prattle on about personal branding still apply if your focus is on your reputation. You can create the most amazing brand image possible, but if you treat your prospects and customers poorly, that brand isn’t got to keep your business afloat.</p>
<p>This even works for large companies. Starbucks never spent a dime on advertising (as 2006, the last time I spoke with an acquaintance who was a District Manager there). The TV ads you saw for their line of grocery products was paid for by the company who was manufacturing them. Pepsi, I believe. Their success was built on quality and consistency. Their Baristas in every single store were trained, encouraged and rewarded for connecting with customers. They are notorious for memorizing the faces, names and preferred drinks of their regulars. And those drinks are made with a consistency such that you know you’re going to get the same drink in any of their locations. They grew into the monolithic success that they are today because they built a great reputation for themselves. Starbucks would have seen the same success even if they didn’t have the mermaid logo, and served their drinks in dixie cups.</p>
<p>Every business owner would see their bottom line improve by leaps and bounds if they fostered a culture of service and positive interaction with their customers. If they viewed their business as having a reputation built on strength of character, and not a brand.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Fuller</title>
		<link>http://www.marketersboard.com/branding-5-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-1009</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice if you are say, into affiliate marketing

However, if you are into Network Marketing I would have to say branding is extremely important.

In fact, since so many in NM try to sell you their opportunity upfront, it may be a good idea to spend time branding yourself and socializing properly before putting up your opportunity page.

Without an opportunity to talk about they may actually establish some relationships first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice if you are say, into affiliate marketing</p>
<p>However, if you are into Network Marketing I would have to say branding is extremely important.</p>
<p>In fact, since so many in NM try to sell you their opportunity upfront, it may be a good idea to spend time branding yourself and socializing properly before putting up your opportunity page.</p>
<p>Without an opportunity to talk about they may actually establish some relationships first.</p>
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		<title>By: Franck Silvestre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franck Silvestre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome article Robert.

In fact, I used (and today recommend to my coaching clients) this plan when I got started, except that I replaced the &quot;freelance&quot; part with &quot;promoting other people&#039;s products&quot;

I like this plan,

You give step by step stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome article Robert.</p>
<p>In fact, I used (and today recommend to my coaching clients) this plan when I got started, except that I replaced the “freelance” part with “promoting other people’s products”</p>
<p>I like this plan,</p>
<p>You give step by step stuff.</p>
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